On August 4th, 2021, Scott Morgan from South Carolina Public Radio interviewed Chad Echols as part of the radio station’s continuing coverage of evictions in the Palmetto State and COVID-19. The interview represents both sides of a difficult issue by providing the insights of both Chad Echols of The Echols Firm, LLC, a credit/collection industry attorney, and Sue Berkowitz of Appleseed Legal Justice Center, a consumer attorney. The article and interview give interesting and differing perspectives as we all continue trying to negotiate the economic realities of the pandemic.